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I own a very similar motorbike to the ones you're talking about. Had it for about two years now as my daily ride.
See here: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=



There are several versions of those bikes, probably from different manufacturers. The plastics will differ as well as the shocks,and powertrain, but the main frame usually remains the same.
For what I can see on the pics, the ones you're showing are the "lesser quality" ones. The shocks are tiny, same thing goes for the brakes and the plastics look to be the cheapest so they won't like at all the UV light.

That being said, they are quite a good basis and you can do a lot with them, But you'll need to DIY a lot if you want to have something nice.
Don't get me wrong, they should work fine out of the box, but I bet they'll use the cheapest motors, cheapest controllers and cheapest batteries so don't expect something crazy or reliable.

I suggest you the following upgrades:
-look up for your motor specs
-Depending on your motor specs, see what is the best controller you can afford. I believe you should be able to go for 200Amps continuous (4-500Amps/phase) if you're lucky to have a W motor or more. Changing your controller will make a huge difference in terms of performance, but will kick your battery pretty hard so at this point you'll have to plan for a better battery.
-Go for lithium. But you'll have to find a battery with a high continuous discharge rate, which is not so easy, because the bike wil still be heavy so the controller and basically all the powertrain will have to work harder for a much longer time than an ebike would in order to reach top speed.
-Reinforce your chassis. This is vital, the welds are usually horrible and the tubes seem to be bent with a hatchet. Total garbage.
-Change your shocks, this is a must
-Change your brakes, at least the front ones, probably a must too if the bike comes equipped with floating calipers
-Put some vinyl sheets onto all your plastics. This will protect them against UVs so they won't disintegrate in 6 month.
-Change the garbage tires.

About the size, it seems to me that they are very slightly undersized compared to an equivalent 250cc. I'd say they are 90% or 95% scaled. But that might also be because the rear whell is only 16 inches.

Anyway, those bikes have flaws for sure, but they are quite a good basis to work on. Relatively lightweight, plenty of battery space, awesome looks and relatively nice and stable ride once modded. Seems overly expensive in the US though... Thanks for the reply! Glad to see another member riding one of these bikes. Come to think of it i have already watched your youtube drag vids on the other guys thread. I almost bought a 250cc magician also.

Cheap and bad quality is my middle name so im excited to see what comes in the mail! I do have a KLS kelly controller i will probably use to get programming and regen. But yes i need to find out what motor i get on the bike first. Im hoping its atleast a w

I didnt think about the UV and the plastics but i have bought a set of ABS plastics from china for a Katana 600 i used to ride and they were the worst things ever so they will likely be similar to those. Look good from afar for a year.

What does your bike weigh? Seems like they are saying this one is only 265lbd but the sla battery is small on this version. Being under 300lbs makes me not super worried about the brakes and suspension for now, but i may say different on the first ride for all i know.

Also what did you pay over there? Since your saying $3k is expensive is US? This is the cheapest bike ive seen here

skeetab said: Thanks for the reply! Glad to see another member riding one of these bikes. Come to think of it i have already watched your youtube drag vids on the other guys thread. I almost bought a 250cc magician also.

Yep, that was me and my friend Marcus.

skeetab said: Cheap and bad quality is my middle name so im excited to see what comes in the mail! I do have a KLS kelly controller i will probably use to get programming and regen. But yes i need to find out what motor i get on the bike first. Im hoping its atleast a w

Let's hope it is, but there are different versions of W so let's hope it's a good one!
If you have a good W motor then you can expect to get very decent performance without having to change your motor, otherwise you'll need an upgrade. My W has plenty enough power and doesn't heat too much but it is not so far from its limit. W should give you a bit more slack.

skeetab said: I didnt think about the UV and the plastics but i have bought a set of ABS plastics from china for a Katana 600 i used to ride and they were the worst things ever so they will likely be similar to those. Look good from afar for a year.

Use some vinyl sheet on the outside and several layers of paint in the inside if you want the plastics to be more durable, it's an easy fix and it will make your bike look better too

skeetab said: What does your bike weigh? Seems like they are saying this one is only 265lbd but the sla battery is small on this version. Being under 300lbs makes me not super worried about the brakes and suspension for now, but i may say different on the first ride for all i know.

It used to be very heavy with the lead acid, somewhere around 170-180 kg if I recall correclty. Now that I've ditched this anchor I think it should be around 130-140kg.
About the forks and brakes, I never tried the standard fork so I cannot tell you how bad it might be, but as for brakes the ones generally fitted on bikes and scooters here are absolute garbage. They might seem fine at the beginning but after a few hard brakings they will fade totally and progressively become uneffective. But that's an easy fix anyway.

skeetab said: Also what did you pay over there? Since your saying $3k is expensive is US? This is the cheapest bike ive seen here

Well I bought mine second hand for around 700 usd including many, many mods (analogic dashboard, nice shocks, handmade seats, full carbon wrap, custom feet rests, nicer screws and hardware, and some other stuff I forgot). But you can find some very nice bikes like this at around - USD:

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/download/file.php?mode=view&id=

Here is the link but I'm not sure it can be accessed from outside of China, you might need a VPN:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.29.184f60d9qMwg22&id=&ns=1&abbucket=8#detail

Some bikes are even way cheaper, they generally start at around 500 bucks.

Also, those bikes probably don't comply with the regulations in your country, I don't know. They don't even comply with the regulations in China, riding them is theoretically not allowed. But somehow, selling them is.

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